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18 May 2011 @ 09:06 am
Apocrypha and Evolution  
So, May 21 is believed by some to be the date of the second coming, when Jesus will return and lift up his believers into heaven, and the unbelievers and sinful will be cast into damnation forever.

I've seen a post-rapture looting event invitation on Facebook, and have steered away from it as it breaks my societal code for behavioral conduct, although I understand the humor in it. I too have wondered what will happen to the possessions of the believers after they are gone.

Some less things-oriented friends of mine who are non-Christian have also invited me to a relaxed backyard barbeque where we can celebrate our revelationist friends assumption into heaven and be grateful for the beautiful world we have been left.

I have felt it is quite possible that in the experience to come, for each individual, of the ending of this life, perhaps there is a feeling of rapture to come... and that we might each have our own judgment day brought upon us where all threads of our activity are wrapped up together, forever immutable... but in our inner worlds, not en masse in the shared reality.

So, I am left questioning, why do some people believe in literal marching horsemen of the apocalypse, and why do others believe in better perfecting the gifts we were each born with, in this life... unconcerned with preparing the way for heaven and hell? I really think this comes down to personal choice -- those who believe outside forces rule their lives and change them, transform them, lead them from this lowly earth to the alternate world of angels, powers with which they must align and ally and to which they must obey or be punished... versus those of us like myself who believe we are to listen to the inner voice that leads us to better life with ourselves and those around us... that the gift is in having the ability to do and make choices, to listen to and see the power radiant in each one of us.

I've oversimplified because the lesson of the personal journey coming into greater union with God's plan is a big lesson in all successful religions... and also the experience of being the conduit, a nozzle for the power of the divine is also a lesson in all popular paths... yet the dividing line I see is that some power is out there which is going to level our current society and transform it all at once... and that is what does not feel real to me.

Three days before there is a manifest answer. I will make each day count, leading up to that... and following that day, practice radical inclusivity, love for all people, recognition of the divine in each rock, stone, bird, flower, woman and man. That is the lesson that Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, and others have taught me.
Steffirecat on May 18th, 2011 06:47 pm (UTC)
I've seen a post-rapture looting event invitation on Facebook, and have steered away from it as it breaks my societal code for behavioral conduct

Me too.

I really think this comes down to personal choice

I'm not sure that everyone gets an opportunity to comparison-shop.
opalmirroropalmirror on May 18th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC)
In this country, aside from family and pressures, everyone nominally has a choice... although there are some disadvantages to not believing the same as the prevalent views. Since I don't automatically root for the 'winning' (e.g. largest) team, I guess I choose to have some personal disadvantages.
Steffirecat on May 18th, 2011 08:09 pm (UTC)
aside from family and pressures

That's a very big aside. Well educated urban people are more likely to be exposed meaningfully to multiple belief systems.
opalmirroropalmirror on May 19th, 2011 03:15 pm (UTC)
I suppose you've seen a lot of this sort of pressure back in your home stomping grounds. :( A lot of people suffer.
Steffirecat on May 19th, 2011 06:43 pm (UTC)
Not especially, I just hear about it from friends who escaped it.
Robert: animals - dustball kittytrolleypup on May 18th, 2011 07:06 pm (UTC)
Before the Rapture, chop wood, carry water. After the Rapture, chop wood, carry water.

Oh, and God has declared SF a Rapture-free zone, for her sins, Rapturists are recommended to be east of the truss section[1] of the Bay Bridge, north of the North Tower of the Golden Gate Bridge, or south of the city and country line as marked on roads and maps. I will note that the Anchor Distillery will be operating as normally.

[1] Yes, I know the truss section does not, technically, end at the city limits.
opalmirroropalmirror on May 18th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC)
Jesus, save me from your lawyers.
sienna555sienna555 on May 20th, 2011 04:28 am (UTC)
Nobody really knows what lies beyond death. We can pretend to know, we can take hints from our subconscious, or we can believe ancient books, but nobody nobody nobody really knows.

In the face of all this ambiguous evidence pointing to absolutely nothing, we all must make a choice that is based within our own personalities and/or ego masks. Because the choice we make on this particular issue will color and cloud our existential outlook on EVERYthing, we must be willing to examine our notions of concepts like truth, proof, and validity, and how those shape our personalities. There is no fucking proof, and nothing is valid.

Therefore, the best philosophy to carry around with you is the one that will make you the happiest.

My philosophy is one of humor. If I'm not able to laugh at this world, why would I want to live in it?